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so Vicki and her committee have done an

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Science Institute and the Tokyo Tech

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science so round of applause for them as

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well and that's about it for me have a

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fantastic week take advantage of

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everything we have to offer and anyone

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who's interested in hosting this next

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year in your city come and talk to me so

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hi there I'm Melissa kerbin Brooks from

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the NASA Astrobiology and Susan SS

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trials do program so I just wanted to

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you know share some thoughts today

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fitting of any conference that I've

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standing and enabling the search for

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what humans could be like in the future

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in future worlds so I grew up with the

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the Astro mycologist who was actually

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future that I know about and it wasn't a

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Rapp so you may know him from his

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Times bestseller without you a memoir of

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love loss and the musical Rent he can

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academic and scientific conferences are

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know so back it's close to Star Trek

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discovery which is strange and if I look

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predicted that I would be in that show

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email from my my representative my

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manager saying are you interested in

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just an offer which doesn't happen very

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often in my field believe me there are

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audition for plenty of times and never

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opportunities including being here one

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places from a an employee there who was

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the pride pride month or at slash LGBT

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employees association and he thought

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colleagues about the incredible work

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astrobiology Institute and then we just

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matter of incredible circumstance and

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perseverance but it struck me that it's

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not exactly the same thing as what you

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wonderful pursuit of discovering life in

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of all those things you certainly don't

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always know where the opportunity will

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come where you'll make this discovery

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but you keep just putting your your nose

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to the grindstone sticking your heads

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and your computers working with each

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other across disciplines and hopefully

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you will you will find these these

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breakthroughs maybe this methane won't

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mean something and I know that I'm an

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incredible regard for science I'm

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learning more about science from playing

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the scientist and I know that you all as

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far as I know maybe some of you are

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moonlighting actors but if you are

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scientists right so it seems like there

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work that I do and the work that you do

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here I think that there are some really

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strong parallels and I was especially

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struck by that earlier today when I was

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part of in sitting in on a media

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presentation to the media about some of

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the work that's been going on one of the

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things that is very similar to me is

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that if you sit down in front of your

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computer and you put up Netflix or CBS

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all access or Amazon Prime you sit in

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product and yes you could look at the

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credits at the end and you could see oh

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there's all those people who do those

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weird mysterious things from all those

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different departments but basically

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pictures and the people who are in front

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of the camera and and and the story

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that's been told and all the work that

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and you don't necessarily know anything

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doing a little google search about like

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discovery of life on Mars what I see is

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the pictures from the Rovers and you

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about the methane on Mars but of clearly

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from today's presentation there are so

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invisible to us in the public sphere

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that requires so much in so many months

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years of preparation so much

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interdisciplinary collaboration between

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all the different departments and I dare

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say that it's very much the same thing

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when you sit down and watch Star Trek

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discovery there are these guys called

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grips that move the equipment around and

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that they have to know the inside the

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inner workings of the of the

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lights and cameras that I don't I

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certainly wouldn't know how to do that I

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mean I could I guess I could push

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something but you know they there's a

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certain level higher level of skill than

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that there are the the months of the

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writers getting together in the room to

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what they call break a story where they

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discuss the ideas of the plot that they

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want to tell that they think about the

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creatures they might want to create for

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the this iteration of Star Trek and

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believe me astrobiologists we are aware

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that in the universe it's unlikely we're

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going to find quite so many humanoid

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light creatures we understand this but

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you have to understand that it's really

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a matter of our biology as humans

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playing these roles I mean I'm not

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playing I'm playing a human but you know

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there's only so much you can do with two

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people who have two eyes and nose a

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mouth and ears and so most of the you

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know so the creatures and aliens that

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get created have to have something like

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that or else you'd have actors walking

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into walls you know there was at one

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point a tardigrade a giant tardigrade

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that was meant to be a member of our

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crew but truly but it turned out you

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know that just the budgetary concerns

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and the you know all that stuff and

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makes it a little impossible maybe

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that'll happen in the future as these

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those costs go down or whatever so we

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understand that that it's very likely

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that that the the life that we would

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encounter if we were install fleet

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generally would probably be weird

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microbes or squid like things or gaseous

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forms or who knows what so we get it we

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get it but you know for now you're gonna

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have to deal with the Pigface men and

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the you know the the N Dorian's with the

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with the antennas and etc etc but I

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digress but anyway so we have these

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months of the of the writers breaking

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the story I don't even know all the

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stuff that they're doing I just get I

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get sent a script I read the script I

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get to learn you know download that

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information in my mind and then I show

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up on the set I'm surrounded by a

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hundred or more people who are members

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of the crew who do all the work we we

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break down the script into tiny parts

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you you work on one scene the day two

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maybe two or three scenes a day and then

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you never do it again you move on to the

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next scene and etc etc but then all of

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that gets shuffled into the digital

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information put into the editor

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hands then he or she edits it together

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into a form and then it's sent to the

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visual effects department and they put

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in all their wizardry and then you see

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the final product so I do believe that

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there's a great similarity and it's also

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true that I don't necessarily ever meet

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many of those people especially in the

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post-production what is called the

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post-production side of things and yet I

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could not do my job

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or my job wouldn't mean as much or it

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wouldn't be given the opportunity to

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mean as much if it weren't for all those

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people who I probably may never meet who

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were doing the incredible hours of work

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and with artistry and skill I would

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imagine it's similar in your field that

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there's people who were looking at those

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striations of weird rocks who are doing

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that kind of work who might not ever

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know the people who were building the

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drill on the rover that drills into the

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surface of Mars and yet you know the the

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one work absolutely informs or helps the

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other so I think that that's that is

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similar and it's also inspiring to me

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it's it's another level of awe that I

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have for the the layers of discipline

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the layers of artistry the layers of

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thought care creativity that is required

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in your field that I do you know I can

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start to lean into and grasp my head

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around because when I start hearing like

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certain terms I frankly you know I don't

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know I don't know what all these things

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mean I don't have the training you do

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but I do love to look at the pretty

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pictures of the Mars rover doing the

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things that it's doing the things that

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it's doing and I love getting to talk to

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Melissa and hearing even glimpses of the

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incredible research and work that you

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are all engaged in I I don't know if the

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people in this room would share this

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feeling but it's been shared with me

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many times over in the last couple of

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years since I was lucky enough to become

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a part of the Star Trek world that Star

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Trek has been such an important part of

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the scientific community an important

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source of inspiration and important

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mirror holding up a possible future a

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vision of a possible future and

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inspiring in some ways direct iterations

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into our technology so I'm I be curious

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to see how many people in this room

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that might be the case that some version

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of one of the myriad Star Trek stories

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had any part in helping encourage you to

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become the scientists that you are today

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I can tell you that meeting you and

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getting to engage with you has deeply

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inspired me in the work that I'm doing

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and when I you know very got to nerd out

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walking around the Ames Research Center

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in Mountain View I got to go back to the

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to the to my cast members and just they

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were all jealous that I was the one who

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got to do that it's really exciting for

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us to know that the work that we're

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doing is perhaps in some ways helping to

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contribute to the work you're doing and

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I want you very much to know that the

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work you're doing is absolutely

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contributing to the work that we're

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doing you know the the condition of our

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planet is of course in peril in many

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ways from a biological standpoint as

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well as from a political humanistic

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standpoint and Star Trek was created by

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Gene Roddenberry as back in the 60s as

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holding up a notion of what the future

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could possibly be and that is the source

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of our inspiration of all of us who are

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involved in this telling up that story

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we believe that it's holding up a

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Paragon of a possibility of what the

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future could be where the surface

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differences between us as human beings

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and other alien species make no

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difference in terms of our ability to

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connect with one another our ability to

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learn from one another to teach one

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another and no barrier whatsoever to our

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ability to achieve anything and of

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course we know that we're still bumping

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up against all sorts of notions and

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prejudices in our current reality but I

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do believe that the work you're engaged

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in of reaching out into the unknown

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reaching out into the to the

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wilds and mysteries of the universe are

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absolutely helping could could and will

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and do help us to imagine the the

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greater reality that we're all engaged

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in which is that we are this tiny piece

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of this much larger hole and that is an

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enormous source of inspiration and

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meaning to all of us I this was this

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talk was billed as a discussion with and

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I'm very interested in having a

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discussion and opening up to two

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questions I don't know if scientists

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tend to be shy you know maybe if I would

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you know if you want to have arguments

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about you know certain details of the

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work you're doing I can't really engage

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with that as much on a micro level but

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I'm really interested to engage with you

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on any level answer any kind of question

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or have a have a discussion I'm gonna

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have questions of my own of like the

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kind of work that you do but I would you

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know the the time that I'm here and

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available to you I was really hopeful

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that it could be as much as anything

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also a conversation there are

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microphones in the aisles I know that

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there's one there one there one there

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and maybe and one there but again it

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does require people to be willing to not

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be shy or at least be shy and do it

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anyway which is one of the things you

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know that is written I see someone up

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there hello thank you yes hi my name is

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Riley I know many of my friends of

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looking at me right now so I mean what

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I'm sorry did you say my name is Ravi

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and I think many of my friends are

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looking at me right now because they

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know that I'm a super star trek fan okay

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I would love to know I'm a scientist at

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NASA Goddard and I'm actually originally

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from India cool so I want to just thank

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you for coming here and it really means

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a lot because I've been interested in

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Star Trek since I was six years old

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grew up with you know the original Star

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Trek I never connected between you know

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why I was interested in astronomy and

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and and Star Trek but recently in the

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last six or seven years when I went to a

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Star Trek convention

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that's when I realize you know maybe

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that had a great influence on my career

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hmm I met William Shatner Leonard Nimoy

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so what I wanted to tell you is that

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when you go back and you know do your

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work on Star Trek discovery please tell

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the writers and the production people

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and everyone that it means a lot to me

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that there's a great show and I get

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inspiration from the show thank you

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thank you so much appreciate it thank

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you thank you hello hi Anthony again

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thank you for coming out I'm Wes I'm

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from Northern Illinois University not

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too far from where you grew up yeah

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where Rose I know you located

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DeKalb the cowboy in the middle of

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nowhere a central anoints weird it's

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called more than but it's central anyway

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so part of I think why a lot of us like

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Star Trek is because it presents normal

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scientists and I dare say that your your

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character is pretty normal right and in

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Hollywood I think a lot of

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representation of scientists is crazy

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old white dudes right and so I love this

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little cranky frankly but you know but I

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think most of the people you talk here

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talk to here would probably say that

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this is one of their favorite

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conferences to go to and part of the

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reason is it's a very diverse audience

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it's very welcoming audience and a bunch

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of just normal people for the most part

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some of you ER some of you are pretty

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weird but do you think there's any you

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know change in Hollywood or any

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resistance to presenting those types of

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scientist rather than the you know the

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Big Bang Theory sort of eccentric

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scientists yeah I mean I think that

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there was there's been a concerted

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effort with Star Trek in general but

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especially with our iteration of it that

543
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Michael Barnum is

544
00:22:31,299 --> 00:22:29,540
what is it that I want to say that say

545
00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:31,309
it correctly she's a biologist herself

546
00:22:37,390 --> 00:22:32,990
alright and for xeno anthropologists

547
00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:37,400
rather you know she's a black woman who

548
00:22:43,060 --> 00:22:40,850
was raised on Vulcan so there's a you

549
00:22:45,340 --> 00:22:43,070
know it's an exploration of culture

550
00:22:47,890 --> 00:22:45,350
clash there and cultural truths and

551
00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:47,900
cultural differences then there's Tilly

552
00:22:53,500 --> 00:22:51,290
who's a scientist who you know there's

553
00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:53,510
people who are theorizing is she maybe

554
00:22:57,310 --> 00:22:56,170
on the spectrum that's never been stated

555
00:23:00,160 --> 00:22:57,320
equivocally

556
00:23:01,180 --> 00:23:00,170
by the by the writing staff but and it

557
00:23:03,669 --> 00:23:01,190
may or may not be true but she certainly

558
00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:03,679
deals with anxiety and then there

559
00:23:08,560 --> 00:23:05,330
Stamets who's you know like the cranky

560
00:23:10,330 --> 00:23:08,570
grill one um so yeah I think that there

561
00:23:14,220 --> 00:23:10,340
was a concerted effort to have this

562
00:23:17,530 --> 00:23:14,230
diversity of representation of really

563
00:23:18,820 --> 00:23:17,540
profoundly intelligent people who are

564
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:18,830
able to come together and that those

565
00:23:26,380 --> 00:23:23,290
differences of skin color of gender of

566
00:23:28,419 --> 00:23:26,390
sexual preference sexual identity have

567
00:23:28,930 --> 00:23:28,429
no bearing on the work that they do

568
00:23:31,000 --> 00:23:28,940
together

569
00:23:33,490 --> 00:23:31,010
it never comes up it's never an issue

570
00:23:35,799 --> 00:23:33,500
never a question never anything what's

571
00:23:38,380 --> 00:23:35,809
always that question is are they getting

572
00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:38,390
to the right solution are they talking

573
00:23:44,350 --> 00:23:40,670
about the issues in a meaningful way and

574
00:23:45,820 --> 00:23:44,360
I think that that's absolutely mindfully

575
00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:45,830
done by the writers and it's something

576
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:48,610
that we as a cast really deeply embrace

577
00:23:53,020 --> 00:23:50,690
and yes of course I think it's

578
00:23:55,630 --> 00:23:53,030
absolutely true that for far too long

579
00:23:59,350 --> 00:23:55,640
these kinds of stories have been

580
00:24:01,480 --> 00:23:59,360
dominated in the telling of them by the

581
00:24:03,370 --> 00:24:01,490
traditionally you know middle-aged white

582
00:24:06,549 --> 00:24:03,380
guy who's often kind of a little bit off

583
00:24:07,660 --> 00:24:06,559
his rocker you know and I'm sure that

584
00:24:10,270 --> 00:24:07,670
they're you know certainly they're I

585
00:24:12,549 --> 00:24:10,280
mean in some ways you know it's probably

586
00:24:13,630 --> 00:24:12,559
because Einstein I don't he was off his

587
00:24:15,340 --> 00:24:13,640
rocker but he's certainly you know had

588
00:24:17,080 --> 00:24:15,350
the wild hair and he had you know he was

589
00:24:20,770 --> 00:24:17,090
you know he had the German accent so

590
00:24:24,310 --> 00:24:20,780
that that that became a kind of icon of

591
00:24:26,590 --> 00:24:24,320
what a scientist looked like and so that

592
00:24:28,150 --> 00:24:26,600
became understand and you could say it's

593
00:24:30,730 --> 00:24:28,160
understandable that that became the way

594
00:24:33,850 --> 00:24:30,740
that it was most often represented but I

595
00:24:36,130 --> 00:24:33,860
think it's so clear looking at this room

596
00:24:37,870 --> 00:24:36,140
of course and and I'm sure other rooms

597
00:24:38,560 --> 00:24:37,880
that are filled with scientists that is

598
00:24:50,950 --> 00:24:38,570
the

599
00:24:52,630 --> 00:24:50,960
field of show business who are telling

600
00:24:53,770 --> 00:24:52,640
these stories and putting these images

601
00:24:56,860 --> 00:24:53,780
and putting these characters on screen

602
00:24:58,120 --> 00:24:56,870
that they represent the world and all of

603
00:25:01,780 --> 00:24:58,130
the people in the world and for far too

604
00:25:04,390 --> 00:25:01,790
long it's been dominated only by white

605
00:25:06,550 --> 00:25:04,400
men just like so many other fields you

606
00:25:08,830 --> 00:25:06,560
know the stories the stories you know

607
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:08,840
the the spoils belong to the victors and

608
00:25:12,700 --> 00:25:10,490
all that kind of thing you know so I'm

609
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:12,710
very proud and honored that I am a part

610
00:25:15,700 --> 00:25:14,090
of something that's advancing that

611
00:25:17,590 --> 00:25:15,710
conversation in such a meaningful way

612
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:17,600
and thank you for recognizing a lot

613
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:25,430
thank you hello hey so I'm Martha from

614
00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:28,010
Portugal working in Germany and I

615
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:34,610
actually am an Astra mycologist Paul

616
00:25:38,410 --> 00:25:35,090
Stamets

617
00:25:42,490 --> 00:25:38,420
no actually so I am studying fungi in

618
00:25:44,590 --> 00:25:42,500
space more specifically fungal spores so

619
00:25:46,270 --> 00:25:44,600
I'm very happy that you actually brought

620
00:25:47,710 --> 00:25:46,280
us from my college into the world

621
00:25:50,820 --> 00:25:47,720
because it's super easy for me to

622
00:25:54,310 --> 00:25:50,830
explain and to sell my work right now

623
00:25:56,290 --> 00:25:54,320
you're welcome thank you so much I have

624
00:26:02,230 --> 00:25:56,300
one question for you how is it to travel

625
00:26:04,060 --> 00:26:02,240
on the mycelium Network however many oak

626
00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:04,070
jumps that was was it a hundred and I

627
00:26:09,570 --> 00:26:05,690
can remember the exact number 100 how

628
00:26:13,710 --> 00:26:11,850
that was agonizing that was a really

629
00:26:15,450 --> 00:26:13,720
hard day I had a headache at the end of

630
00:26:17,940 --> 00:26:15,460
that day that means seriously because I

631
00:26:20,009 --> 00:26:17,950
was like screaming for hours you know

632
00:26:22,019 --> 00:26:20,019
well you may or may not know this but

633
00:26:23,789 --> 00:26:22,029
when you see any in a finished product

634
00:26:25,350 --> 00:26:23,799
of a film or television show and you see

635
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:25,360
you know thirty seconds of screen time

636
00:26:29,249 --> 00:26:27,369
might have taken many hours to film

637
00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:29,259
different angles different setups and

638
00:26:33,269 --> 00:26:30,730
everything like that so in that

639
00:26:35,430 --> 00:26:33,279
particular day when I was in that chair

640
00:26:37,139 --> 00:26:35,440
screaming and sweating and spraying

641
00:26:38,999 --> 00:26:37,149
water on me and glycerin and all that

642
00:26:41,249 --> 00:26:39,009
stuff that was that was really hard so

643
00:26:42,239 --> 00:26:41,259
that wasn't always so closer you know

644
00:26:44,999 --> 00:26:42,249
I'm sorry

645
00:26:49,769 --> 00:26:45,009
it was hard though then it's not fun

646
00:26:52,739 --> 00:26:49,779
yeah like I what I loved about some of

647
00:26:55,889 --> 00:26:52,749
the writing especially when I when that

648
00:26:58,169 --> 00:26:55,899
idea was first being introduced of my

649
00:27:01,560 --> 00:26:58,179
character being the one to navigate is

650
00:27:04,590 --> 00:27:01,570
that it's it was an experience of really

651
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:04,600
seeing and being inside of the inner

652
00:27:10,289 --> 00:27:07,330
workings of something that was just the

653
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,299
arete achill and I don't know about all

654
00:27:13,529 --> 00:27:11,919
of you in this room but I imagine that

655
00:27:15,029 --> 00:27:13,539
you you you know when you've had a

656
00:27:16,950 --> 00:27:15,039
breakthrough of some kind when you've

657
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,960
touched when you've gotten really close

658
00:27:19,409 --> 00:27:18,340
you've been working at an idea or

659
00:27:21,749 --> 00:27:19,419
working at an ocean and then you

660
00:27:24,149 --> 00:27:21,759
actually really see it come to life that

661
00:27:26,789 --> 00:27:24,159
must be so incredibly powerful for you

662
00:27:29,450 --> 00:27:26,799
and so I feel like that it's it's a you

663
00:27:32,249 --> 00:27:29,460
know it's a it's a metaphorical or

664
00:27:33,810 --> 00:27:32,259
imagined way of making that real but I

665
00:27:35,849 --> 00:27:33,820
think it was a beautiful way of making

666
00:27:37,379 --> 00:27:35,859
it real you know and the idea I'm sure

667
00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:37,389
you know as a mycologist I was just

668
00:27:41,129 --> 00:27:38,679
reading an article I don't know a couple

669
00:27:42,930 --> 00:27:41,139
weeks ago about how there's all this

670
00:27:44,190 --> 00:27:42,940
studying being done about how trees

671
00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:44,200
communicate with each other through the

672
00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:46,330
my seal the net work that goes on under

673
00:27:50,759 --> 00:27:48,820
the forest floor so it's it's it's an

674
00:27:52,979 --> 00:27:50,769
idea it's a science fiction idea that's

675
00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:52,989
rooted and based in real science and

676
00:27:57,950 --> 00:27:56,169
that was the germ no pun intended that

677
00:28:02,659 --> 00:27:57,960
that

678
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:02,669
of having this my Sela Network being

679
00:28:07,549 --> 00:28:04,409
something can connect the universe you

680
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:07,559
know so it's yes it's it's you know it's

681
00:28:11,210 --> 00:28:09,690
theoretical it's out there it's you know

682
00:28:13,639 --> 00:28:11,220
some people could argue that it's silly

683
00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:13,649
even but it's it is based on something

684
00:28:17,750 --> 00:28:16,320
that is real work being done in the real

685
00:28:20,120 --> 00:28:17,760
world and that's something that I think

686
00:28:22,399 --> 00:28:20,130
our writers are especially striving to

687
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:22,409
do and proud of doing that they're you

688
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:24,450
know Paul Stamets met with the writing

689
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:27,090
staff early on in the process and got to

690
00:28:31,310 --> 00:28:28,890
talk them at all sorts of things that

691
00:28:33,529 --> 00:28:31,320
he's working on and so I hope that we

692
00:28:36,019 --> 00:28:33,539
continue to see the exploration of the

693
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:36,029
great work that he's doing and and how

694
00:28:41,570 --> 00:28:38,130
it gets filtered into the the work that

695
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:41,580
my my character gets to do did I answer

696
00:28:50,060 --> 00:28:45,330
your question yes you do thank you hello

697
00:28:50,750 --> 00:28:50,070
over there yeah hi oh here sorry there

698
00:28:53,330 --> 00:28:50,760
where am I looking

699
00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:53,340
over there over there sorry hi hi I'm

700
00:28:58,519 --> 00:28:55,049
Ryan I'm an assistant professor at the

701
00:29:00,080 --> 00:28:58,529
University of Mississippi so I wanted to

702
00:29:02,029 --> 00:29:00,090
add one thing to what you said about

703
00:29:04,130 --> 00:29:02,039
similarities between your job as an

704
00:29:06,230 --> 00:29:04,140
actor and what we do as scientists and

705
00:29:07,399 --> 00:29:06,240
one of the things that a GU does really

706
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:07,409
well and one of the things that

707
00:29:12,590 --> 00:29:09,360
astrobiology does really well is public

708
00:29:14,510 --> 00:29:12,600
outreach of science specifically giving

709
00:29:17,210 --> 00:29:14,520
talks about science and so what you're

710
00:29:19,549 --> 00:29:17,220
doing on stage I actually used to do

711
00:29:21,289 --> 00:29:19,559
theater when I was in college and I find

712
00:29:23,570 --> 00:29:21,299
that the skills that I learned when I

713
00:29:25,399 --> 00:29:23,580
was on stage have really translated

714
00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:25,409
amazingly well into my career as a

715
00:29:30,310 --> 00:29:27,840
scientist and so I'd love to hear any of

716
00:29:32,299 --> 00:29:30,320
your comments about your thoughts about

717
00:29:34,519 --> 00:29:32,309
performance when it comes to describing

718
00:29:37,519 --> 00:29:34,529
science as one who wasn't originally in

719
00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:37,529
science or what we as scientists can do

720
00:29:41,330 --> 00:29:39,390
to better I mean I have my own opinions

721
00:29:42,830 --> 00:29:41,340
about what we as scientists can do to be

722
00:29:44,269 --> 00:29:42,840
better communicators and to give better

723
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:44,279
talks but I'd love to hear it from a

724
00:29:48,470 --> 00:29:46,169
professional on the outside that's

725
00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:48,480
interested thank you um I think one of

726
00:29:51,919 --> 00:29:50,130
the things that was really a key for me

727
00:29:54,889 --> 00:29:51,929
in approaching the playing of this role

728
00:29:57,169 --> 00:29:54,899
is tapping and it would be true of any

729
00:29:59,060 --> 00:29:57,179
role that I play is what I call the

730
00:30:00,910 --> 00:29:59,070
heartbeat the soul of the character I

731
00:30:04,180 --> 00:30:00,920
try to get inside of the

732
00:30:06,660 --> 00:30:04,190
of you know the passions that drives the

733
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:06,670
the meaning of this characters life and

734
00:30:11,320 --> 00:30:10,130
how I interpret how I interpreted based

735
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:11,330
on the writing that I was given but also

736
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:13,130
you know engaging with some of Paul's

737
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:16,610
tamás's work is that there's an

738
00:30:22,420 --> 00:30:19,130
incredible passion for the work itself

739
00:30:27,670 --> 00:30:22,430
so that that fire that's lit by the work

740
00:30:30,340 --> 00:30:27,680
is a key for me and that it's it's about

741
00:30:32,170 --> 00:30:30,350
trying to get at the beauty and mystery

742
00:30:34,030 --> 00:30:32,180
of the universe and that's something

743
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:34,040
that I don't have i Anthony don't have

744
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:36,970
to have sat through you know years of of

745
00:30:41,860 --> 00:30:39,770
Astra mycology training to be able to

746
00:30:43,930 --> 00:30:41,870
understand what that might be so then

747
00:30:47,830 --> 00:30:43,940
when I'm given a script that has

748
00:30:49,150 --> 00:30:47,840
detailed lingo jargon I can easily look

749
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:49,160
up stuff that helps me just have a

750
00:30:54,250 --> 00:30:51,020
little more of a grounding and what that

751
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:54,260
might refer to in a literal sense but

752
00:31:00,010 --> 00:30:57,410
all of it is encased in and couched in

753
00:31:02,230 --> 00:31:00,020
the passionate need and drive for

754
00:31:04,120 --> 00:31:02,240
understanding and making a difference

755
00:31:09,370 --> 00:31:04,130
and making the universe a better place

756
00:31:12,250 --> 00:31:09,380
so I feel like possibly when scientists

757
00:31:13,810 --> 00:31:12,260
are doing their presentations and if

758
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:13,820
public speaking or presentation is a

759
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:16,430
part of the work that you do that of

760
00:31:19,930 --> 00:31:18,170
course the data is important and the

761
00:31:22,690 --> 00:31:19,940
information is important but if it can

762
00:31:24,940 --> 00:31:22,700
if you can you know do whatever work you

763
00:31:27,670 --> 00:31:24,950
can do to also connect it up to the

764
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:27,680
meaning behind it and I don't mean the

765
00:31:32,650 --> 00:31:29,330
literal meaning but the sort of greater

766
00:31:34,390 --> 00:31:32,660
global philosophical whatever you would

767
00:31:36,550 --> 00:31:34,400
want to call it meaning that it gives

768
00:31:38,890 --> 00:31:36,560
rise to the desire to do it in the first

769
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:38,900
place so that that is communicated as

770
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:40,850
well as all the ones and zeros of it

771
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:43,250
absolutely that sounds great and one of

772
00:31:48,910 --> 00:31:44,960
the things that I often tell people is

773
00:31:50,950 --> 00:31:48,920
that when we're talking about science

774
00:31:53,020 --> 00:31:50,960
we're telling stories and we tell

775
00:31:55,090 --> 00:31:53,030
stories in order to invite people and to

776
00:31:56,650 --> 00:31:55,100
be a part of a community and so it's not

777
00:31:58,240 --> 00:31:56,660
just the community of scientists but

778
00:31:59,440 --> 00:31:58,250
it's also the community the brotherhood

779
00:32:01,360 --> 00:31:59,450
of man and I think that's what you're

780
00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:01,370
talking about because I mean what do we

781
00:32:06,130 --> 00:32:03,710
do as human beings we sit around and we

782
00:32:09,430 --> 00:32:06,140
either tell stories or we watch other

783
00:32:10,540 --> 00:32:09,440
people on television engaging in stories

784
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:10,550
and then we talk about it with our

785
00:32:13,630 --> 00:32:12,620
friends later yeah and so the sense of

786
00:32:14,540 --> 00:32:13,640
community that we get through

787
00:32:17,060 --> 00:32:14,550
storytelling I

788
00:32:18,890 --> 00:32:17,070
is is super important so thanks for all

789
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:18,900
the stories you tell about science thank

790
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:21,330
you appreciate it thank you yeah thank

791
00:32:29,570 --> 00:32:26,850
you hi hi hi Anthony I'm bill diamond

792
00:32:32,300 --> 00:32:29,580
from the SETI Institute and like our

793
00:32:33,620 --> 00:32:32,310
good friends in at NASA Ames we're also

794
00:32:35,660 --> 00:32:33,630
in Mountain View so the next time you're

795
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:35,670
up at Ames messing around come and visit

796
00:32:38,180 --> 00:32:35,970
us

797
00:32:41,300 --> 00:32:38,190
oh and maybe give one of our SETI talks

798
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:41,310
that would be a lot of fun I I grew up

799
00:32:47,780 --> 00:32:43,650
with the original Star Trek series and

800
00:32:50,390 --> 00:32:47,790
yeah and like many you know found that

801
00:32:53,290 --> 00:32:50,400
both inspiring and fun I will say that

802
00:32:55,670 --> 00:32:53,300
interestingly enough the whole idea of

803
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:55,680
intelligent and complex and interesting

804
00:32:59,300 --> 00:32:57,750
life forms on other planets really

805
00:33:01,010 --> 00:32:59,310
didn't surprise me at all I mean it was

806
00:33:01,940 --> 00:33:01,020
like yeah that makes perfect sense it's

807
00:33:07,430 --> 00:33:01,950
completely reasonable

808
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:07,440
warp drive I still struggle with to say

809
00:33:11,510 --> 00:33:09,330
that you can maybe fold spaces yeah

810
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:11,520
folding folding space maybe something

811
00:33:15,860 --> 00:33:14,250
you know - flying speeder as a speeds

812
00:33:17,630 --> 00:33:15,870
greater than speed of light I doubt but

813
00:33:18,170 --> 00:33:17,640
yeah folding space-time could be

814
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:18,180
interesting

815
00:33:22,190 --> 00:33:20,310
all right anyway the problem I have with

816
00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:22,200
the Star Trek now being at the SETI

817
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:23,760
Institute is from a SETI point of view

818
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:27,950
it's game over you've already found

819
00:33:32,180 --> 00:33:30,090
extraterrestrial intelligence so I'm

820
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:32,190
asking you if there's a place in a

821
00:33:36,230 --> 00:33:33,870
future Star Trek episode for what I

822
00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:36,240
would call Smitty I just made that up

823
00:33:40,190 --> 00:33:37,640
it's the search for more

824
00:33:41,390 --> 00:33:40,200
extraterrestrial intelligence like so

825
00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:41,400
you know we've got some interesting

826
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:42,810
planet so we visited some interesting

827
00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:44,910
places now we've got some Smitty people

828
00:33:48,580 --> 00:33:46,170
on board the spacecraft because we're

829
00:33:50,450 --> 00:33:48,590
gonna look for yet more interesting

830
00:33:52,370 --> 00:33:50,460
extraterrestrial so just something to

831
00:33:55,340 --> 00:33:52,380
think about as you develop future

832
00:33:57,530 --> 00:33:55,350
programming think about yeah we hate to

833
00:33:59,240 --> 00:33:57,540
be left out yeah I appreciate that I

834
00:34:00,710 --> 00:33:59,250
mean what I can tell you is that in the

835
00:34:03,050 --> 00:34:00,720
season 3 we haven't started shooting at

836
00:34:04,430 --> 00:34:03,060
I've only seen the first two scripts so

837
00:34:07,220 --> 00:34:04,440
I really don't know what's all gonna

838
00:34:08,840 --> 00:34:07,230
happen in the next season but you know

839
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:08,850
sorry if it's a spoiler four people

840
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:11,130
haven't watched so far but we are season

841
00:34:15,050 --> 00:34:13,050
three picks up it's something like 900

842
00:34:16,850 --> 00:34:15,060
or a thousand years in the future far

843
00:34:18,290 --> 00:34:16,860
the lot farther in the future than has

844
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:18,300
ever been told in the Star Trek universe

845
00:34:24,860 --> 00:34:22,550
before so I'm personally hopeful and

846
00:34:27,460 --> 00:34:24,870
think it will happen that we will

847
00:34:29,260 --> 00:34:27,470
encounter new life forms and

848
00:34:31,990 --> 00:34:29,270
and other kinds of extraterrestrial

849
00:34:34,149 --> 00:34:32,000
intelligence just because it's a new

850
00:34:37,419 --> 00:34:34,159
sandbox that our writers and designers

851
00:34:39,070 --> 00:34:37,429
and technicians get to play in and I'm

852
00:34:41,070 --> 00:34:39,080
deeply curious to see what they're going

853
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:41,080
to come up with so I think there will be

854
00:34:52,060 --> 00:34:46,570
Smitty in our future yeah thank you

855
00:34:52,990 --> 00:34:52,070
hello yes hi we're gonna let him what so

856
00:34:57,490 --> 00:34:53,000
ever yeah

857
00:35:00,070 --> 00:34:57,500
hi I'm sure from Caltech I grew up on a

858
00:35:02,200 --> 00:35:00,080
diet of Star Trek so it's always been

859
00:35:06,550 --> 00:35:02,210
inspiration in my life so thanks for

860
00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:06,560
continuing to make great programs I

861
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:12,070
wanted to just describe how I think the

862
00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:15,280
astrobiology in Star Trek can interact

863
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:19,130
yeah so the day-to-day practice of a lot

864
00:35:23,170 --> 00:35:20,450
of science can often be kind of

865
00:35:25,270 --> 00:35:23,180
methodical and mechanical users sort of

866
00:35:27,460 --> 00:35:25,280
following following a well established

867
00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:27,470
method and you know comparing stuff

868
00:35:33,910 --> 00:35:31,910
analyzing but there's also an important

869
00:35:36,099 --> 00:35:33,920
role for imagination in science and

870
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:36,109
things like pure maths this is this is

871
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:39,230
of and theoretical physics this is it's

872
00:35:43,630 --> 00:35:41,000
of obviously essential in astrobiology

873
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:43,640
it's also essential but kind of for

874
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:45,050
different reasons because we have no

875
00:35:53,230 --> 00:35:47,810
idea what we're really looking for out

876
00:35:55,150 --> 00:35:53,240
there and so I think sometimes in

877
00:35:57,450 --> 00:35:55,160
science we underestimate the value of

878
00:36:00,579 --> 00:35:57,460
artists and how much we can learn from

879
00:36:03,190 --> 00:36:00,589
artists and creative people and so I

880
00:36:06,130 --> 00:36:03,200
think when we engage with something like

881
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:06,140
Star Trek it reminds us of what it's

882
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:09,680
like to to to have your sort of creative

883
00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:11,930
hat on and have a a really open mind and

884
00:36:18,220 --> 00:36:16,490
let your imagination run wild and yeah

885
00:36:21,599 --> 00:36:18,230
so I think you know the more the more

886
00:36:23,680 --> 00:36:21,609
crazy the stories are the better and

887
00:36:24,910 --> 00:36:23,690
it's actually thank you for saying that

888
00:36:26,380 --> 00:36:24,920
I was it was something that it crossed

889
00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:26,390
my mind when I was thinking about you

890
00:36:29,100 --> 00:36:28,490
know what our intersections might be and

891
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:29,110
I won

892
00:36:35,130 --> 00:36:32,470
at whether scientists ever do consider

893
00:36:37,170 --> 00:36:35,140
themselves creative in that way or

894
00:36:39,690 --> 00:36:37,180
artistic in that night what I think they

895
00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:39,700
should yeah yeah I can promise you know

896
00:36:42,540 --> 00:36:41,260
in my field there are technical things

897
00:36:44,700 --> 00:36:42,550
that even as an actor there are

898
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:44,710
technical things and specific things and

899
00:36:48,540 --> 00:36:46,330
I mean I need to learn my lines I need

900
00:36:49,380 --> 00:36:48,550
to understand what the camera does and

901
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:49,390
that you know it's certainly very

902
00:36:52,410 --> 00:36:50,770
helpful if I have that technical

903
00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:52,420
knowledge but then there is that other

904
00:36:56,430 --> 00:36:53,950
sort of ineffable thing that happens

905
00:36:59,010 --> 00:36:56,440
when it's you know when the women is

906
00:37:00,870 --> 00:36:59,020
sort of the the magic of it is happening

907
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:00,880
but I would imagine it's not that

908
00:37:04,830 --> 00:37:03,130
dissimilar from from the scientific

909
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:04,840
world right it's not if there's got to

910
00:37:08,630 --> 00:37:06,970
be some crossover yeah like this week in

911
00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:08,640
the evening after we've had a few drinks

912
00:37:19,410 --> 00:37:16,570
yeah thank you thank you that we still

913
00:37:22,350 --> 00:37:19,420
depend a lot on the Horta from the first

914
00:37:24,060 --> 00:37:22,360
iteration of Star Trek and as a

915
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:24,070
silicon-based life-form it was pretty

916
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:26,050
interesting this question however is

917
00:37:29,700 --> 00:37:28,270
completely unrelated to that I'm from

918
00:37:32,460 --> 00:37:29,710
the North Shore and we have our uncle

919
00:37:33,870 --> 00:37:32,470
Buck's and our home Alone's but what do

920
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:33,880
you think about the fact that the best

921
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:36,610
portrayal of joliet was in The Blues

922
00:37:41,460 --> 00:37:39,970
Brothers no can you fix that I know it's

923
00:37:43,530 --> 00:37:41,470
it's because there's a big prison there

924
00:37:45,510 --> 00:37:43,540
I mean it's just you know most people

925
00:37:47,910 --> 00:37:45,520
know Joliet because of Blues Brothers if

926
00:37:50,730 --> 00:37:47,920
they know it at all yeah I'm from Joliet

927
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:50,740
Lionel Richie's from Joliet yeah John

928
00:37:54,180 --> 00:37:52,570
Barrowman if there's any Doctor Who fans

929
00:37:55,590 --> 00:37:54,190
who played you know Torchwood he's from

930
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:55,600
Jim we went to high school together you

931
00:37:59,160 --> 00:37:57,670
know so there's like more than a prison

932
00:38:01,080 --> 00:37:59,170
and there's more than the blue solution

933
00:38:02,910 --> 00:38:01,090
so well we'll look forward to you

934
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:02,920
squaring the circle later on in life

935
00:38:07,170 --> 00:38:04,750
squaring you say squaring the circle

936
00:38:09,510 --> 00:38:07,180
yeah how what does that mean again when

937
00:38:11,580 --> 00:38:09,520
you square the circle portray Joliet as

938
00:38:15,300 --> 00:38:11,590
the completely well-rounded place now it

939
00:38:18,990 --> 00:38:15,310
is yeah cool thank you yes yes hello

940
00:38:20,850 --> 00:38:19,000
hello my name is Loren I work at Woods

941
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:20,860
Hole Oceanographic Institution

942
00:38:27,270 --> 00:38:24,490
so I come at of astrobiology from an

943
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:27,280
ocean worlds perspective and studying

944
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:29,890
our oceans you look at oceans on other

945
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:33,280
worlds we were talking about stories

946
00:38:37,240 --> 00:38:36,010
earlier and I wanted to tell a story a

947
00:38:39,790 --> 00:38:37,250
short story

948
00:38:42,820 --> 00:38:39,800
I was raised by my dad and my

949
00:38:46,839 --> 00:38:42,830
grandparents and my grandfather died

950
00:38:49,330 --> 00:38:46,849
when I was 13 he didn't finish eighth

951
00:38:51,700 --> 00:38:49,340
grade he wasn't very educated but he was

952
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:51,710
this mechanical genius he could figure

953
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:54,410
out how to fix just about anything and

954
00:39:00,430 --> 00:38:57,290
he was fascinated by engines and I found

955
00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:00,440
out years after he died that he loved

956
00:39:05,290 --> 00:39:03,380
Star Trek the original series and that

957
00:39:09,370 --> 00:39:05,300
he would sit my dad down and he would

958
00:39:13,240 --> 00:39:09,380
say we're gonna watch Star Trek he

959
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:13,250
called it Star Trek of course they would

960
00:39:17,980 --> 00:39:15,050
sit down together and watch this show

961
00:39:21,700 --> 00:39:17,990
and he was just obsessed with rockets

962
00:39:25,660 --> 00:39:21,710
and space travel and he never got to see

963
00:39:29,740 --> 00:39:25,670
me become the first PhD in the family or

964
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:29,750
go into astrobiology research but I

965
00:39:35,470 --> 00:39:32,450
think it's amazing that that legacy

966
00:39:38,740 --> 00:39:35,480
exists in our family that began with

967
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:38,750
this show and so when you go back you

968
00:39:45,130 --> 00:39:41,210
know tell the people that you work with

969
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:45,140
it that this show has had an impact not

970
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:47,810
only on scientists but on the families

971
00:39:53,829 --> 00:39:50,330
of scientists and people who maybe

972
00:39:56,859 --> 00:39:53,839
didn't get to pursue those dreams but

973
00:39:58,359 --> 00:39:56,869
still saw them on this screen thank you

974
00:40:00,599 --> 00:39:58,369
so much that's very very moving very

975
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:00,609
very meaningful thank you very all so

976
00:40:04,990 --> 00:40:03,410
it's just so cool to stand here and talk

977
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:05,000
to you because I've loved rent since

978
00:40:13,240 --> 00:40:08,570
high school well thank you I promise I

979
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:13,250
wouldn't sing at you thank you I love

980
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:15,650
rent too believe me changed my life and

981
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:17,690
in every possible way it's also that

982
00:40:21,849 --> 00:40:19,790
long secure dissuade path that took me

983
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:21,859
to being part of Star Trek absolutely

984
00:40:26,589 --> 00:40:24,890
Brent is a huge part of that too so you

985
00:40:30,220 --> 00:40:26,599
just you know you never know how it's

986
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:30,230
all going to wind up I was I when I was

987
00:40:35,589 --> 00:40:32,810
in the media presentation I saw this

988
00:40:38,410 --> 00:40:35,599
incredible there's moments where I was

989
00:40:40,930 --> 00:40:38,420
like so blown away by that a that I

990
00:40:44,620 --> 00:40:40,940
didn't even know this that it showed

991
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,630
earth and in scale six moons around

992
00:40:48,450 --> 00:40:46,480
Earth that

993
00:40:50,220 --> 00:40:48,460
collectively have them if you put them

994
00:40:52,349 --> 00:40:50,230
all together their oceans would I can't

995
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:52,359
remember the proportion but would out

996
00:40:59,430 --> 00:40:55,450
ocean the ocean on earth that blew my

997
00:41:01,820 --> 00:40:59,440
mind so it seems it seems perfectly

998
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:01,830
reasonable and meaningful that that

999
00:41:06,870 --> 00:41:04,210
oceanographer would also be working in

1000
00:41:08,670 --> 00:41:06,880
astrobiology and I'm I just hope you

1001
00:41:11,310 --> 00:41:08,680
know I hope that selfishly I hope that

1002
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:11,320
I'm alive when we find these weird

1003
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:12,790
creatures whatever they might be these

1004
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:15,250
microbes or or squids or whatever they

1005
00:41:23,430 --> 00:41:17,530
are so thank you for continuing to do

1006
00:41:24,810 --> 00:41:23,440
that work hello yes hello I'm Sylvia nup

1007
00:41:28,349 --> 00:41:24,820
I'm an undergraduate at the University

1008
00:41:31,109 --> 00:41:28,359
of Arkansas when I was little I watched

1009
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,119
the original Star Trek series so I know

1010
00:41:37,740 --> 00:41:33,280
a little young for that but that was

1011
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:37,750
that was my start um and my original my

1012
00:41:42,030 --> 00:41:39,369
favorite episode was definitely the one

1013
00:41:45,450 --> 00:41:42,040
about the silicon-based life-form and I

1014
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:45,460
really hope yeah yeah I really hoped

1015
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:47,770
like in the future for Star Trek that

1016
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:49,570
you'll continue to push the boundaries

1017
00:41:54,210 --> 00:41:52,690
of what could be life even if it seems a

1018
00:41:56,760 --> 00:41:54,220
little crazy at the time that's always

1019
00:41:58,470 --> 00:41:56,770
my favorite yeah I'm gonna get ichael I

1020
00:42:00,359 --> 00:41:58,480
believe that that's true part of it you

1021
00:42:02,070 --> 00:42:00,369
know it's funny and with the Horta you

1022
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:02,080
may or might it from if I'm spoiling

1023
00:42:07,950 --> 00:42:04,570
things I'm sorry but that it there was a

1024
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:07,960
props guy that had like a rag the

1025
00:42:13,740 --> 00:42:11,170
raggedy rug that he kind of like put

1026
00:42:16,470 --> 00:42:13,750
some styrofoam Eeyore thing blobby

1027
00:42:18,570 --> 00:42:16,480
things on and then he kind of was in it

1028
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:18,580
and made it move around and that became

1029
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:19,390
the hoarder

1030
00:42:22,830 --> 00:42:20,830
you know what I mean so I don't know

1031
00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:22,840
which came first if they thought like

1032
00:42:25,740 --> 00:42:24,340
we're gonna make this creature that's so

1033
00:42:27,450 --> 00:42:25,750
unlike any other creature you've seen on

1034
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:27,460
earth or if you just like put that

1035
00:42:32,430 --> 00:42:28,510
together and said hey what do you think

1036
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:32,440
of this you know but but yeah I mean

1037
00:42:36,630 --> 00:42:34,930
that was like such a low-budget thing I

1038
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:36,640
don't even know in this day and age and

1039
00:42:40,980 --> 00:42:38,290
we have all these special visual effects

1040
00:42:43,859 --> 00:42:40,990
if they would even think like that but I

1041
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:43,869
do believe that there's a desire to have

1042
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:46,570
to expand the notion of what life could

1043
00:42:50,550 --> 00:42:49,270
look like I mean and again if this is a

1044
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:50,560
spoiler for those who haven't seen that

1045
00:42:58,109 --> 00:42:53,470
all of the episodes I apologize but in

1046
00:43:00,690 --> 00:42:58,119
season 2 there is a spore a spore specie

1047
00:43:03,269 --> 00:43:00,700
that has intelligence that interacts

1048
00:43:05,130 --> 00:43:03,279
with Tilly that then manifests you know

1049
00:43:07,319 --> 00:43:05,140
it didn't it you know it gets into her

1050
00:43:09,809 --> 00:43:07,329
nervous system and then it manifests as

1051
00:43:11,999 --> 00:43:09,819
a human so that she can interact with it

1052
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:12,009
but it's it's really a spore based life

1053
00:43:17,249 --> 00:43:14,470
form so there has been some attempt to

1054
00:43:18,569 --> 00:43:17,259
do it and I think that I would like to

1055
00:43:21,089 --> 00:43:18,579
imagine that they're going to continue

1056
00:43:24,390 --> 00:43:21,099
to try to find these these these ways

1057
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:24,400
these these incredibly weird and

1058
00:43:31,499 --> 00:43:30,130
imaginative creatures thank you hi I'm

1059
00:43:34,109 --> 00:43:31,509
Meghan Owen man and I'm from the

1060
00:43:38,249 --> 00:43:34,119
University of Oklahoma I want to try to

1061
00:43:40,349 --> 00:43:38,259
meld rent with Star Trek here and my

1062
00:43:42,720 --> 00:43:40,359
husband just sent me this quote how do

1063
00:43:45,509 --> 00:43:42,730
you document real life when real life's

1064
00:43:48,870 --> 00:43:45,519
getting more like fiction everyday yeah

1065
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:48,880
that's a lyric yeah yeah and I I'm

1066
00:43:52,109 --> 00:43:49,690
curious

1067
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:52,119
speaking about like the the life forms

1068
00:43:55,859 --> 00:43:54,130
we can push the boundaries there but I

1069
00:43:58,950 --> 00:43:55,869
think many of us were inspired by

1070
00:44:02,339 --> 00:43:58,960
tricorders and remote sensing techniques

1071
00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:02,349
that in many cases we can actually do in

1072
00:44:07,170 --> 00:44:04,839
the field now like we can take out an X

1073
00:44:10,019 --> 00:44:07,180
or F and shoot at Iraq and tell what's

1074
00:44:13,229 --> 00:44:10,029
in it or we can use a raman remotely to

1075
00:44:15,569 --> 00:44:13,239
look for signs of life so how can Star

1076
00:44:18,210 --> 00:44:15,579
Trek and other science fiction keep

1077
00:44:21,029 --> 00:44:18,220
pushing the boundary of technology to

1078
00:44:22,739 --> 00:44:21,039
help us as scientists really envision

1079
00:44:24,180 --> 00:44:22,749
all the fabulous things we could do

1080
00:44:26,249 --> 00:44:24,190
thank you I mean I think that that's a

1081
00:44:27,900 --> 00:44:26,259
great great question I've been one of

1082
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,910
the I don't know if this is inspiring to

1083
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:30,160
you guys or not but it you know we in

1084
00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:31,960
our in our version of Star Trek we have

1085
00:44:37,589 --> 00:44:34,930
all these hologram displays but they're

1086
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:37,599
interactive and I would imagine it's

1087
00:44:41,489 --> 00:44:39,910
sort of like VR but it's you know unlike

1088
00:44:43,349 --> 00:44:41,499
in VR where you're cut off from your

1089
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:43,359
fellows while you're in the virtual

1090
00:44:49,049 --> 00:44:46,329
landscape you can be inside of whatever

1091
00:44:51,089 --> 00:44:49,059
thing you're working on and turn to your

1092
00:44:52,319 --> 00:44:51,099
colleague and you can know you're both

1093
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:52,329
looking at the same thing at the same

1094
00:44:58,319 --> 00:44:54,400
time I I don't know if that technology

1095
00:45:00,120 --> 00:44:58,329
is is meaningful or worthwhile to you

1096
00:45:02,249 --> 00:45:00,130
guys we're actually doing this kind of

1097
00:45:05,220 --> 00:45:02,259
on the field work but it's certainly

1098
00:45:08,309 --> 00:45:05,230
cool for us yeah so we can actually look

1099
00:45:10,220 --> 00:45:08,319
at large data sets now with VR like that

1100
00:45:12,470 --> 00:45:10,230
we can walk through a data set

1101
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:12,480
it's a spatial data set or whether it's

1102
00:45:17,540 --> 00:45:15,570
a more like a quantitative data set and

1103
00:45:20,630 --> 00:45:17,550
that's really helpful to like immerse

1104
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:20,640
yourself in your data even a man can do

1105
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:22,530
with with other people though in real

1106
00:45:27,620 --> 00:45:24,930
time yes you can put on the VR headset

1107
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:27,630
and walk around and spin your data and

1108
00:45:31,370 --> 00:45:28,850
look at it from different perspectives

1109
00:45:32,540 --> 00:45:31,380
or look at it with different variables

1110
00:45:34,190 --> 00:45:32,550
yeah it's really cool

1111
00:45:36,140 --> 00:45:34,200
yeah so I mean I think you know one of

1112
00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:36,150
the things that Trek is certainly

1113
00:45:39,830 --> 00:45:38,250
engaged in exploring and I think a lot

1114
00:45:41,240 --> 00:45:39,840
of science fiction writers continue to

1115
00:45:43,820 --> 00:45:41,250
you know there's all this stuff around

1116
00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:43,830
machine learning and AI and I don't know

1117
00:45:45,950 --> 00:45:45,000
all the implications that's gonna have

1118
00:45:48,020 --> 00:45:45,960
on the work you guys are doing but

1119
00:45:49,609 --> 00:45:48,030
that's something that is always

1120
00:45:53,090 --> 00:45:49,619
interesting to the right you know

1121
00:45:54,859 --> 00:45:53,100
Android technology and cyborg technology

1122
00:45:58,790 --> 00:45:54,869
and you know I don't know if that

1123
00:46:00,620 --> 00:45:58,800
applies at all to to white to stuff that

1124
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:00,630
you're doing but I guarantee you that

1125
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:03,330
like we have an amazing props master who

1126
00:46:07,670 --> 00:46:06,090
is always dreaming up things and and

1127
00:46:11,690 --> 00:46:07,680
presenting them to the production team

1128
00:46:13,700 --> 00:46:11,700
and and again I you know we're engaged

1129
00:46:16,340 --> 00:46:13,710
in a and we're gonna go into production

1130
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:16,350
in a few weeks and so I'll be going on

1131
00:46:20,570 --> 00:46:18,510
set and seeing I think new brand new

1132
00:46:21,890 --> 00:46:20,580
things that they've come up with given

1133
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:21,900
that we're going to be interacting with

1134
00:46:27,650 --> 00:46:26,040
a galaxy that's 900 years in the future

1135
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:27,660
they're they're thinking of all kinds of

1136
00:46:30,859 --> 00:46:30,060
new technologies that we haven't seen

1137
00:46:33,380 --> 00:46:30,869
before

1138
00:46:35,150 --> 00:46:33,390
I don't yeah I think I could say this

1139
00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:35,160
one it's you know if it's spoilery

1140
00:46:39,740 --> 00:46:38,670
I don't think CBS will sue me there one

1141
00:46:41,390 --> 00:46:39,750
of the things that they talk about in

1142
00:46:43,940 --> 00:46:41,400
the in the first script I read is it

1143
00:46:45,590 --> 00:46:43,950
this technology of I don't know what you

1144
00:46:48,140 --> 00:46:45,600
what it would be called but there's a

1145
00:46:50,660 --> 00:46:48,150
substance that you could program and

1146
00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:50,670
then it would make something in real

1147
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:53,609
time so like say I need to have a chair

1148
00:46:59,330 --> 00:46:56,490
right over there you go and then it like

1149
00:47:01,609 --> 00:46:59,340
molds itself into a chair you know in

1150
00:47:03,770 --> 00:47:01,619
almost none instantaneously but it forms

1151
00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:03,780
itself into that and then it could you

1152
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:05,430
could reprogram and it could mold itself

1153
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:07,290
into something else I don't know you

1154
00:47:10,190 --> 00:47:09,210
know sort of like nanotechnology kind of

1155
00:47:11,390 --> 00:47:10,200
thing like that that's something that

1156
00:47:12,410 --> 00:47:11,400
they're that they're playing with and I

1157
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:12,420
don't know if that's inspiring to

1158
00:47:16,340 --> 00:47:14,970
anything that you guys are doing yeah

1159
00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:16,350
cool

1160
00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:21,420
yes oh sorry hi hey I am a Tony brainy

1161
00:47:27,980 --> 00:47:25,850
from Georgia Tech and I don't know how

1162
00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:27,990
connected you are to people in the

1163
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:30,840
writing and of things that are doing the

1164
00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:34,170
stuff to comment on this but I I noticed

1165
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:36,660
a little bit of a funny difference

1166
00:47:42,590 --> 00:47:39,450
between the way that your series is

1167
00:47:44,900 --> 00:47:42,600
interacting with certain bits of science

1168
00:47:48,310 --> 00:47:44,910
than older series is have like in the

1169
00:47:50,180 --> 00:47:48,320
older series is you would have like big

1170
00:47:51,770 --> 00:47:50,190
concepts of science or science fiction

1171
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:51,780
you'd have like oh here you have the

1172
00:47:55,730 --> 00:47:53,610
Dyson Sphere here you have the genetic

1173
00:47:59,180 --> 00:47:55,740
message from the past all kinds of stuff

1174
00:48:00,770 --> 00:47:59,190
in season one of your series I there was

1175
00:48:03,170 --> 00:48:00,780
a moment I burst out laughing because I

1176
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:03,180
recognized the paper that Burnham was

1177
00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:08,610
quoting and that seems like a different

1178
00:48:14,090 --> 00:48:12,000
kind of engagement and I and I wonder if

1179
00:48:15,800 --> 00:48:14,100
you have any thoughts on the people

1180
00:48:18,220 --> 00:48:15,810
involved in doing that yeah I think that

1181
00:48:20,300 --> 00:48:18,230
I believe that the the writers are

1182
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:20,310
working really hard they're very

1183
00:48:26,410 --> 00:48:24,210
interested in trying to ground concepts

1184
00:48:28,910 --> 00:48:26,420
that were engaged with in at least some

1185
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:28,920
theoretical or offshoot of real

1186
00:48:32,060 --> 00:48:30,720
theoretical science if not actual

1187
00:48:34,190 --> 00:48:32,070
science and theoretical science that's

1188
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:34,200
being done on the ground in our day and

1189
00:48:37,730 --> 00:48:35,970
age and then trying to extrapolate what

1190
00:48:39,740 --> 00:48:37,740
that might look like so I think they do

1191
00:48:42,580 --> 00:48:39,750
take that seriously you know a parent

1192
00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:42,590
this may or may not be what's the word

1193
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:45,090
like just an anecdote but apparently

1194
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:46,890
like when they were doing next gen or

1195
00:48:50,720 --> 00:48:49,230
voyage or one of those old series the

1196
00:48:52,070 --> 00:48:50,730
writers sometimes would literally say

1197
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:52,080
we're just gonna make a word salad we're

1198
00:48:55,130 --> 00:48:53,130
just gonna give them like a bunch of

1199
00:48:56,900 --> 00:48:55,140
gobbledygook to say we don't care it's

1200
00:48:58,730 --> 00:48:56,910
because it just sounds technical but I

1201
00:49:01,430 --> 00:48:58,740
do believe our writers don't do that

1202
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:01,440
they try to have the when you're when

1203
00:49:04,310 --> 00:49:02,970
we're talking about tachyons they're

1204
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:04,320
trying to make sure that it really does

1205
00:49:09,650 --> 00:49:07,050
apply to what tachyons could or would be

1206
00:49:11,930 --> 00:49:09,660
so I haven't even though I have had a

1207
00:49:13,700 --> 00:49:11,940
lot of you know mumbo-jumbo to say

1208
00:49:16,420 --> 00:49:13,710
sometimes it when I start to do the

1209
00:49:20,030 --> 00:49:16,430
research and it is grounded in something

1210
00:49:21,620 --> 00:49:20,040
so yeah I'm not surprised that there was

1211
00:49:23,380 --> 00:49:21,630
an actual paper that they're quoting for

1212
00:49:25,180 --> 00:49:23,390
sure that doesn't surprise me at all

1213
00:49:27,460 --> 00:49:25,190
you know they're a bunch of nerds in

1214
00:49:28,870 --> 00:49:27,470
there I promise you you know and then

1215
00:49:30,430 --> 00:49:28,880
there's one writer in particular who's

1216
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:30,440
like a deep Star Trek nerd like she

1217
00:49:33,970 --> 00:49:32,810
knows everything about all the series so

1218
00:49:36,310 --> 00:49:33,980
she's like the one that they can always

1219
00:49:38,110 --> 00:49:36,320
turn to and say does this fit with what

1220
00:49:40,120 --> 00:49:38,120
came before and if it doesn't how could

1221
00:49:42,010 --> 00:49:40,130
we make it you know I guess there's

1222
00:49:45,130 --> 00:49:42,020
squaring the circle those how can we

1223
00:49:49,870 --> 00:49:45,140
square the circle of that uh-huh cool

1224
00:49:50,770 --> 00:49:49,880
thank you oh I've been told this will be

1225
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:50,780
our last question

1226
00:49:53,980 --> 00:49:52,970
sorry no warning but hello right well

1227
00:49:57,190 --> 00:49:53,990
perfect timing

1228
00:49:59,550 --> 00:49:57,200
I'm Diana gentry from NASA Ames Research

1229
00:50:03,370 --> 00:49:59,560
Center like many of the people who have

1230
00:50:06,100 --> 00:50:03,380
spoke my dad showed me the original Star

1231
00:50:07,690 --> 00:50:06,110
Trek on reruns when I was a kid and I

1232
00:50:09,130 --> 00:50:07,700
can say that I would not have gone into

1233
00:50:11,950 --> 00:50:09,140
science or engineering had it not been

1234
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:11,960
for that experience it's amazing but one

1235
00:50:16,060 --> 00:50:13,910
thing that has always stood out to me

1236
00:50:18,910 --> 00:50:16,070
that is unique about Star Trek is that

1237
00:50:22,240 --> 00:50:18,920
it takes care to portray scientists and

1238
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:22,250
engineers not just as plot devices but

1239
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:24,680
as people who have friends and families

1240
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:27,050
and hopes and dreams and relationships

1241
00:50:33,460 --> 00:50:29,330
that matter and I think that that is

1242
00:50:35,260 --> 00:50:33,470
incredibly valuable not only to making

1243
00:50:37,150 --> 00:50:35,270
sure that the field stays open to people

1244
00:50:39,340 --> 00:50:37,160
who are creative and think outside the

1245
00:50:42,130 --> 00:50:39,350
box but also to the way that we as a

1246
00:50:44,470 --> 00:50:42,140
society think about what science and

1247
00:50:46,750 --> 00:50:44,480
engineering can do for us and so I just

1248
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:46,760
wanted to say thank you for portraying a

1249
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:48,410
character that makes that real to people

1250
00:50:57,090 --> 00:50:51,050
thank you so much yeah appreciate it

1251
00:51:03,100 --> 00:51:00,400
so we've a little bit overstayed our

1252
00:51:04,630 --> 00:51:03,110
time which is great I'm sorry no no this

1253
00:51:08,260 --> 00:51:04,640
is fabulous and where we have a

1254
00:51:10,420 --> 00:51:08,270
reception afterwards but Anthony thanks

1255
00:51:12,070 --> 00:51:10,430
so much for for your fabulous

1256
00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:12,080
presentation and for all you're doing

1257
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:15,350
for astrobiology and Astro mycology so

1258
00:51:21,070 --> 00:51:16,970
can everybody join thank you so much

1259
00:51:24,130 --> 00:51:21,080
thank you but um but wait that's not all

1260
00:51:26,590 --> 00:51:24,140
so anything before we let you go we have

1261
00:51:34,690 --> 00:51:26,600
a quick surprise for you so I'd like to

1262
00:51:37,150 --> 00:51:34,700
invite Mary Wojtek back on the stage so

1263
00:51:37,660 --> 00:51:37,160
many of you may or may not know Aaron

1264
00:51:40,150 --> 00:51:37,670
Gronstal

1265
00:51:42,910 --> 00:51:40,160
he's the artist that originated the

1266
00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:42,920
ester biology graphic novels there's

1267
00:51:46,300 --> 00:51:45,650
gonna be a signing on Thursday Wednesday

1268
00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:46,310
whoops

1269
00:51:51,460 --> 00:51:47,930
on Thursday because I'm taking the rest

1270
00:51:54,220 --> 00:51:51,470
of No on Wednesday issue seven on

1271
00:51:58,480 --> 00:51:54,230
pre-bagged chemistry is coming out he

1272
00:52:00,610 --> 00:51:58,490
also is responsible for our logo and in

1273
00:52:08,140 --> 00:52:00,620
honor of you spending time with us

1274
00:52:09,580 --> 00:52:08,150
Anthony we've well he so many people in

1275
00:52:12,250 --> 00:52:09,590
the community are excited to find

1276
00:52:16,380 --> 00:52:12,260
themselves in our graphic histories

1277
00:52:20,740 --> 00:52:16,390
you're not in here but you're on the

1278
00:52:34,550 --> 00:52:20,750
so for people who can't see this in the

1279
00:52:44,099 --> 00:52:41,880
like the best fan art ever oh I get to

1280
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:44,109
release you okay thank you so much for

1281
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:47,650
joining us and yes Anthony's gonna be